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imported_Nothingman
11-06-2009, 02:48 PM
This is one of the most unjust happenings in the history of the sport. Ayub Kalule, undefeated with 36-0 record, fought Sugar Ray Leonard for the WBA jr mw title. Leonard was still a welterweight when he chose to steal away Kalule's title. It is one of the reasons I never really liked SR too much. I respect him, but I don't really like him. Anyway, he went up in weight and fought Kalule for the title and it was a tough, rather even fight. Both men shook eachother during those 9 rounds.

And then, at the end of the 9th round, Kalule got knocked down but stood up and was ready to continue. Somehow, the referee, judging by his facial expressions, got the idea that he wasn't able to continue and stopped the fight. Thus Ayub Kalule got robbed of his title. Kalule was furious at the stoppage and later his team filed a protest, which of course got ignored.

And so the once proud Ugandan champion was reduced to nothing. He would never again win a world title and retired perhaps a little prematurely, after losing to McCallum and Herol Graham. The media darling Leonard however vacated the title he won thanks to the referee to pursue his big unification fight with Hearns. That's the way it goes...

Obama
11-06-2009, 07:14 PM
This is one of the most unjust happenings in the history of the sport. Ayub Kalule, undefeated with 36-0 record, fought Sugar Ray Leonard for the WBA jr mw title. Leonard was still a welterweight when he chose to steal away Kalule's title. It is one of the reasons I never really liked SR too much. I respect him, but I don't really like him. Anyway, he went up in weight and fought Kalule for the title and it was a tough, rather even fight. Both men shook eachother during those 9 rounds.

And then, at the end of the 9th round, Kalule got knocked down but stood up and was ready to continue. Somehow, the referee, judging by his facial expressions, got the idea that he wasn't able to continue and stopped the fight. Thus Ayub Kalule got robbed of his title. Kalule was furious at the stoppage and later his team filed a protest, which of course got ignored.

And so the once proud Ugandan champion was reduced to nothing. He would never again win a world title and retired perhaps a little prematurely, after losing to McCallum and Herol Graham. The media darling Leonard however vacated the title he won thanks to the referee to pursue his big unification fight with Hearns. That's the way it goes...

What was your scorecard at the time of the stoppage?

imported_Nothingman
11-07-2009, 03:33 PM
What was your scorecard at the time of the stoppage?
I haven't scored it yet. Leonard was ahead by 2 and 3 points on the scorecards. It probably was correct, 2 points lead. It took Kalule time to get untracked.

Obama
11-07-2009, 03:42 PM
I haven't scored it yet. Leonard was ahead by 2 and 3 points on the scorecards. It probably was correct, 2 points lead. It took Kalule time to get untracked.

Did you get the impression Kalule was turning the fight around at the time?

imported_Nothingman
11-07-2009, 03:56 PM
Did you get the impression Kalule was turning the fight around at the time?
Well, he had a strong 8th round and also did pretty well in the first half of the 9th, then he looked a little exhausted and Leonad got him with a flurry that knocked him down. It was at the very end of the round and Kalule beat the count clearly and was definitely not done. Kalule won also most of the middle rounds, if not all. Maybe not the fifth.

I gotta watch it again and see if I can score it. I always wondered how Leonard, not really known as a big puncher, managed to stop the strong and durable Kalule in 9 rounds.

Obama
11-07-2009, 04:46 PM
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Obama
11-07-2009, 05:31 PM
I think Kalule only clearly won the 7th round, and the stoppage in the 9th seemed appropriate to me. Kalulue was clearly out of it when the ref asked him if he wanted to continue. He was unable to step forward and needed the ropes to support himself.

imported_Nothingman
11-07-2009, 06:06 PM
I think Kalule only clearly won the 7th round, and the stoppage in the 9th seemed appropriate to me. Kalulue was clearly out of it when the ref asked him if he wanted to continue. He was unable to step forward and needed the ropes to support himself.
How can you judge that by this terrible-quality video??:-??Kalule himself said that the ref misunderstood him and that he was perfectly able to continue, at least for one more round.

Obama
11-07-2009, 06:15 PM
How can you judge that by this terrible-quality video??:-??Kalule himself said that the ref misunderstood him and that he was perfectly able to continue, at least for one more round.

He got up, fell back into the ropes, and was unable to get off when the ref grabbed his gloves and asked him to step forward.

If you can't step forward, the fight is stopped. That's just the way it goes.

TheGreatA
11-07-2009, 07:55 PM
I was under the impression that Kalule wanted the referee to stop the fight.

imported_Nothingman
11-07-2009, 08:11 PM
I was under the impression that Kalule wanted the referee to stop the fight.
No, it was a mistake on ref's behalf. I guess the referee didn't understand Kalule's english well.

TheGreatA
11-07-2009, 08:17 PM
No, it was a mistake on ref's behalf. I guess the referee didn't understand Kalule's english well.

Later on Kalule's people would protest that their man had been unable to understand Berrocal, who speaks only Spanish, which is not one of Kalule's four languages.

Still, it really didn't matter if Berrocal could speak a dozen languages and Kalule understood them all. The Ugandan wasn't filing any protests. As he told New York (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/New_York/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm) sportscaster Bill Mazer, who was doing the closed-circuit broadcast, "I told the referee to stop it. I didn't want to be like Leon Spinks (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Leon_Spinks/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm)."

He meant unconscious.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1124625/4/index.htm

Asked if the referee stopped the fight too early, Kalule replied, "I have no complaint. I didn't know the round was nearly finished."

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=oyMWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ExIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6654,4958384&dq=kalule+leonard&hl=en

imported_Nothingman
11-07-2009, 10:28 PM
Later on Kalule's people would protest that their man had been unable to understand Berrocal, who speaks only Spanish, which is not one of Kalule's four languages.

Still, it really didn't matter if Berrocal could speak a dozen languages and Kalule understood them all. The Ugandan wasn't filing any protests. As he told New York (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/New_York/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm) sportscaster Bill Mazer, who was doing the closed-circuit broadcast, "I told the referee to stop it. I didn't want to be like Leon Spinks (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/topic/article/Leon_Spinks/1900-01-01/2100-12-31/mdd/index.htm)."

He meant unconscious.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1124625/4/index.htm

Asked if the referee stopped the fight too early, Kalule replied, "I have no complaint. I didn't know the round was nearly finished."

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=oyMWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ExIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6654,4958384&dq=kalule+leonard&hl=en
Well he apparently thinks different now. He was interviewed by a Ugandan newspaper recently and he said that he did want to continue. I don't really trust Sports Illustrated, they had a tendency to "blow up things" and they were real Sugar Ray fanboys.